tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2839601747923375105.post1528884389956994389..comments2024-03-28T01:22:13.683-03:00Comments on Battle Game of the Month: Wargame as Game Pt 3 Illusion vs AbstractionRoss Mac rmacfa@gmail.comhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04053555991679802013noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2839601747923375105.post-83345854560051817652010-10-18T11:37:13.322-03:002010-10-18T11:37:13.322-03:00Seen the 3 circles before- I'd tilt mine pers...Seen the 3 circles before- I'd tilt mine personal set only a lttle more towards history and a little away from game but all in all much the same- the imagination bit would be about the same - at least some of the time.Big Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17235478427317774609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2839601747923375105.post-219837762218856932010-10-07T08:06:10.373-03:002010-10-07T08:06:10.373-03:00Useful diagram Ross. I think I'd ideally want...Useful diagram Ross. I think I'd ideally want all three to be present. Game is the dominant and essential one for me, as it provides the tension and excitement, but without History and Imagination it wouldn't be wargaming, it could be poker or whatever, which would be fine but not the same thing.<br /><br />I think having one's own figures on the table, with a strong identity and back story really helps the History and Imagination. I've lately been pondering this with my mid/late 19thC interests, as the regimental distinctions tended to have greatly diminished by then and it's difficult to tell one battalion from another.<br /><br />Thanks for another thought-provoking post.Steve Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00784652695519954845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2839601747923375105.post-79377914979782500852010-10-07T04:25:13.050-03:002010-10-07T04:25:13.050-03:00Fascinated by the 3 circles - I suspect my own gam...Fascinated by the 3 circles - I suspect my own games, especially the biggest ones, are a bit short on the Imagination aspect (as in "imagining what it would be like to be there").<br /><br />I had a ponder about that. I'm not so sure now - I seem to have a bit of blurring between the History and the Imagination circles. There's a nice transcript of a discussion from Historicon '00 (which you have almost certainly read) at<br /><br />http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=556584<br /><br />If I had any energy I would re-read it now, but Jim Getz (I think) makes the point that he and a number of friends used the old Napoleonique rules for years without any arguments and without anyone trying to exploit the holes in the rules, because they were there to facilitate a Napoleonic battle rather than to win one. This gets a bit close to a previous post of yours, but, again, this is ponder time.<br /><br />I'm never likely to witness a real Napoleonic battle (thank God), so watching the thing unfold and seeing what happens is a big part of the appeal for me, and I guess it does require some imagination to map what you see back against what you read in the books. Sometimes I worry that this aspect of my involvement is a bit passive, but I think I'm OK with it now. Generations of model railway enthusiasts have done exactly this - you have to be pretty devoted to go up in the loft to watch the 09:25 set off on time yet again!<br /><br />Once again, you got me thinking - that has to be a good thing!<br /><br />Thanks, as ever - great blog (should be an oath!)<br /><br />TonyMSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2839601747923375105.post-14026278439510628652010-10-06T23:19:52.523-03:002010-10-06T23:19:52.523-03:00Ah, the Venn diagram of wargaming. :)
I suppose my...Ah, the Venn diagram of wargaming. :)<br />I suppose my inclination is at least a bit tilted towards the Imagination side, with a bit of Game and History (or Story) thrown in.Fitz-Badgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15510866929782142007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2839601747923375105.post-28999889809744566972010-10-06T17:22:49.244-03:002010-10-06T17:22:49.244-03:00Interesting, Ross. I think that I need to think a...Interesting, Ross. I think that I need to think about this.<br /><br /><br />-- JeffBluebear Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05171345165563779232noreply@blogger.com